The terminals are copper greased and looking good, even jump starting I had the neg on the block. I'm wondering if its the permanent feed on the starter that's iffy, although charging the battery fixed it. I did read about 9 volts on the dash before trying to start the car(before I charged it), so the battery was very low. I have new terminals to go on the battery, think I will renew the neg cables and get another good one to the block. Perhaps the alternator not charging, sometimes when driving its 12V, sometimes it goes up to 13.5ish, so its like its sensing if the battery needs charging, or perhaps its not bothering half the time. So it may be a mixture of a few things, I'll renew all I can. I've had the battery and charging circuit tested a few months back, and all was running perfect during the tests.